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		<title>Thinking about the TiVoHD</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, as my last two posts implied, I own a TiVo again.  In fact, I own a TiVoHD.  Pay per view on the TiVo works through Amazon, so they have the best price.  I&#8217;ve been playing with it for 2 days now and I have some thoughts, comments, and a small review. The TiVoHD is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as my last two posts implied, I own a <a title="TiVo main web site" href="http://www.tivo.com/">TiVo</a> again.  In fact, I own a <a title="TiVoHD information from TiVo" href="http://www.tivo.com/whatistivo/tivohd/index.html?WT.mc_id=hmpgebb_LearnTiVoHD&amp;WT.ac=hmpgebb_LearnTiVoHD">TiVoHD</a>.  <a title="Amazon Unbox for TiVo" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/tivo/">Pay per view</a> on the TiVo works through <a title="Cheap TiVoHD at Amazon" href="http://www.amazon.com/TiVo-TCD652160-Digital-Video-Recorder/dp/B000RZDBM2">Amazon</a>, so they have the best price.  I&#8217;ve been playing with it for 2 days now and I have some thoughts, comments, and a small review.</p>
<p>The TiVoHD is a much different device from the <a title="Sony SVR-2000 TiVo on Amazon" href="http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SVR-2000-Digital-Video-Recorder/dp/B00005I9R3">Series 1 TiVo</a> I received 7 years ago. The Series 1 was intended to be connected to your cable box as a pure <a title="Wikipedia: What is a DVR?" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_video_recorder">DVR</a> addition.  The TiVoHD becomes your cable box and your Internet/TV media center.  It&#8217;s hard to compare them since they are very different devices.</p>
<p>The Verizon FiOS cable box with DVR is a lot closer, and the TiVo is worse in some ways:</p>
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<li> <strong>you don&#8217;t get On Demand or Verizon&#8217;s pay per view</strong>: This is working with Comcast now if you live in the Boston area.  I shed no tears for pay per view, but On Demand had a lot of free content.</li>
<li>t<strong>he TiVo interface is almost unacceptably slow</strong>: When you press a button on the remote, it takes anywhere from a half second to a full second for the device to register it.  To make matters worse, with a Dolby receiver, the TiVo sometimes doesn&#8217;t make a confirmation sound.  This problem makes the device feel cheap and hard to use.  I&#8217;m amazed that they released it without solving this problem.  <a href="http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-video-recorders-dvrs/tivo-hd-20-hd/4505-6474_7-32511935.html">Other</a> <a title="Youtube Video Review" href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=bsl8iH60pGY">people</a> <a title="PC Magazine" href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2161820,00.asp">think</a> <a title="Engadget" href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/24/tivo-hd-review-roundup/">so</a> <a title="PC World" href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,134950-c,tivo/article.html">too</a>.</li>
<li><strong>entering text using the remote (for searches) is much, much harder</strong>:  Verizon had the ability to use the letter substitutions on the number keys to enter text.  So 228 matched CAT and BAT, but searching was easier and faster.</li>
<li><strong>the guide doesn&#8217;t show which shows will be recorded already</strong>: this didn&#8217;t work reliably on the Verizon DVR, but it was nice to look through the list of shows and see that The Daily Show was going to be recorded.</li>
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<p>It&#8217;s better in a number of ways too: the <a title="Standard TiVo Guide" href="http://dynamic.tivo.com/resources/images/downloads/LiveGuide_HD.jpg">channel</a> <a title="TivoLovers: Grid Guide" href="http://www.tivolovers.com/Photos/Series3-Review/Small/Guide-2.jpg">guides</a> are much much nicer; scheduling shows is easier and more understandable; fewer bugs; the TV picture seems better somehow (maybe a better MPEG decoder?); easier to use; expandable storage; ability to record shows to DVD or VCR; closed caption support; a better remote; <a title="Swivel Search Review" href="http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2007-05/tivo-unveils-swivel-search/">swivel search</a>; and <a title="Guru Guides" href="http://www3.tivo.com/tivo-tco/mix/index.do">Guru Guides</a> which help you find interesting things to watch.</p>
<p>But the most interesting thing about the new TiVoHD happens when you give it a broadband connection.  TiVo seems to be trying to make their device a full media center.  You can listen to Internet radio stations, (on your stereo!) log into online photo sites and view them on your TV, purchase and play movies from Amazon, etc., etc.  It will also allow you to download recorded shows and movies to your computer, (and then to your iPod, etc) stream photos and music from your computer, and transfer videos from your computer to your TiVo.</p>
<p>And finally, TiVo has released an <a title="TiVO HME" href="http://tivohme.sourceforge.net/">API to design new applications</a> and do <a title="Apps.tv" href="http://www.apps.tv/apps.php">cool and interesting things</a>. And here again things fall down.  There are some developers creating <a title="PyTiVo" href="http://pytivo.armooo.net/">interesting</a> <a title="Galleon" href="http://galleon.tv/">things</a>, but development seems to be slowing or stopping.  A grand community doesn&#8217;t seem to have formed.  In fact, the forum is <a title="The TiVo Developer's Forum" href="http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=tivohme-developer&amp;max_rows=25&amp;style=ultimate&amp;viewmonth=200801">fairly quiet</a>.  Obvious ideas like Youtube videos, Facebook monitors, or networked games aren&#8217;t even being discussed.</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s going on?  Is TiVo too hard to obtain now?  Is there not enough of an audience?  Are the hackers all using the <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/">open source equivalents</a>?   Is it too hard to install and use third-party software?  Or is this just a community management or advertising problem?  Or am I missing a vibrant community of people? Does it cost too much for developers?  (The monthly price seems to be much cheaper than renting the Verizon box&#8230;)</p>
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