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	<title>Comments on: Managing Certificate Authorities in Adobe Flash on Fedora/RHEL</title>
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		<title>By: Jonas Ådahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas Ådahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not arguing if Flash is good or bad, just that it is not in any way more cross platform than Firefox. Web users are not platforms, they are humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not arguing if Flash is good or bad, just that it is not in any way more cross platform than Firefox. Web users are not platforms, they are humans.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Götz: Yes, I just filed a bug here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572725

Jerome: I think you&#039;re right. It looks like the origin is this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=143392

Jonas: I&#039;ve seen stats that say 98% of web users have flash installed.  (Obviously that&#039;s changing now that more people are using mobile devices) Firefox users make up 20-50% web users depending on your audience.  I&#039;m not that interested in arguing about whether Flash is good or bad.  Happily, I&#039;m not a flash developer.  I simply want the software I use to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Götz: Yes, I just filed a bug here: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572725" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572725</a></p>
<p>Jerome: I think you&#8217;re right. It looks like the origin is this bug: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=143392" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=143392</a></p>
<p>Jonas: I&#8217;ve seen stats that say 98% of web users have flash installed.  (Obviously that&#8217;s changing now that more people are using mobile devices) Firefox users make up 20-50% web users depending on your audience.  I&#8217;m not that interested in arguing about whether Flash is good or bad.  Happily, I&#8217;m not a flash developer.  I simply want the software I use to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome Haltom</title>
		<link>http://xkahn.zoned.net/blog/2010/03/10/managing-certificate-authorities-in-adobe-flash-on-fedorarhel/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Haltom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds to me like Flash got this right, and the issue is that Fedora moved what seems to be a default location on most Unix systems.

The whole NSS debacle sucks, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds to me like Flash got this right, and the issue is that Fedora moved what seems to be a default location on most Unix systems.</p>
<p>The whole NSS debacle sucks, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Götz Waschk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Götz Waschk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have a test case where the upload does not work without the symlink?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a test case where the upload does not work without the symlink?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Ådahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas Ådahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; There are some alternatives that don’t appear to be cross-platform,

Using flash is LESS cross-platform than using Firefox, AND it relies on proprietary software/protocols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; There are some alternatives that don’t appear to be cross-platform,</p>
<p>Using flash is LESS cross-platform than using Firefox, AND it relies on proprietary software/protocols.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Bowen</title>
		<link>http://xkahn.zoned.net/blog/2010/03/10/managing-certificate-authorities-in-adobe-flash-on-fedorarhel/comment-page-1/#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like Flash is just using the OpenSSL default location.  Fedora does move this, but Flash is probably carrying around its only reference to /etc/ssl/certs.

As for the system default, things are complicated by the existence of multiple crypto libraries in most Linux distros.  OpenSSL has a plain list (or directory) of CAs, while NSS uses a database format with additional info on each CA (email signer vs. SSL signer, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like Flash is just using the OpenSSL default location.  Fedora does move this, but Flash is probably carrying around its only reference to /etc/ssl/certs.</p>
<p>As for the system default, things are complicated by the existence of multiple crypto libraries in most Linux distros.  OpenSSL has a plain list (or directory) of CAs, while NSS uses a database format with additional info on each CA (email signer vs. SSL signer, etc).</p>
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